The Practical Missions Podcast 

Missions is a great calling, but a very hard job

I’m not an expert. I don’t have all the answers.  And I’m not interviewing authors, conference speakers or experts on the subjects, just normal people learning from one another.

Your Host

Today on the Pod, my guest shares with me what it has been like to serve in a remote area of Africa. From a cushy life in the West to sleeping on the ground in a mud hut in Africa. Nothing has been easy, but everything was worth it. 

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 From first bible to a surrendered life
  • 04:08 Finding a people and moving
  • 5:40 Comfort shock and Lyme disease
  • 10:43 Healthier rhythms for longevity
  • 16:20 Boundaries that keep you healthy
  • 19:06 Outsider forever and yet known
  • 24:37 Returning home a different person
  • 31:58 Dealing with real needs everywhere
  • 36:58 Syncretism and the need for Gospel clarity
  • 39:51 Spiritual health and real community
  • 42:26 Building staying power

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For me, I am very well known there in the community. I am their white person. I am their missionary. I am theirs. They have adopted me. They have given me a name. They have given me a clan. They’ve given me a family. So I am really theirs. And everywhere I go, I am known, and people will shout my name. And so there is that sense of belonging. I definitely have that sense of belonging. And I think for me, that is enough. It is sufficient.

How Being on the Field Rewrites Your Identity

Today on the Pod, my guest shares with me what it has been like to serve in a remote area of Africa. From a cushy life in the West to sleeping on the ground in a mud hut in Africa. Nothing has been easy, but everything was worth it. 

For me, I am very well known there in the community. I am their white person. I am their missionary. I am theirs. They have adopted me. They have given me a name. They have given me a clan. They’ve given me a family. So I am really theirs. And everywhere I go, I am known, and people will shout my name. And so there is that sense of belonging. I definitely have that sense of belonging. And I think for me, that is enough. It is sufficient.

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Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 From first bible to a surrendered life
  • 04:08 Finding a people and moving
  • 5:40 Comfort shock and Lyme disease
  • 10:43 Healthier rhythms for longevity
  • 16:20 Boundaries that keep you healthy
  • 19:06 Outsider forever and yet known
  • 24:37 Returning home a different person
  • 31:58 Dealing with real needs everywhere
  • 36:58 Syncretism and the need for Gospel clarity
  • 39:51 Spiritual health and real community
  • 42:26 Building staying power

Today on the Pod, we work through a clear, biblical definition of the local church and why that clarity matters for missionaries and cross-cultural workers who have been shaped by unhealthy church experiences.

We connect church membership, baptism, the Lord’s Supper, and congregational authority to everyday discipleship.

Topics
• confusion created by saying “the church isn’t a building” while ignoring the need for a covenanted body
• the value of expositional preaching versus preacher-driven topical proof texting
• a practical definition of a church as a baptized, covenanted congregation that gathers weekly
• baptism and the Lord’s Supper as covenant signs that shape membership and accountability
• why leaving a church during conflict reveals a thin view of covenant commitment
• the “keys of the kingdom” and the church’s authority over doctrine, membership, discipline, and leadership
• moving from “what do I get?” to “how do I love and build up others?”
• what to do in frontline ministry with only a few believers and no established church
• the dividing line between a Bible study and a church gathered around the ordinances

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 From Arabic Study To Pastoring
  • 04:00 Expositional Preaching Made Simple
  • 06:40 Why The Church Matters In Missions
  • 09:30 A Clear Definition Of Church
  • 18:40 Covenant Commitment When Conflict Hits
  • 21:15 Baptism And The Lord’s Supper
  • 29:20 Keys Of The Kingdom And Authority
  • 41:10 When Church Feels Like You Get Nothing
  • 44:15 Planting A Church With Few Believers
  • 49:00 Bible Study Versus A True Church
  • 51:15 Slow Faithful Work And Closing Charge

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What is a church? “A church is a congregation of baptized Christians who have covenanted to gather weekly for preaching the Bible, celebrating the ordinances, loving the saints, witnessing to the lost, and, in all this, glorifying God.

How Do You Do Church Planting If You Don’t Know What The Church Is?

Today on the Pod, we work through a clear, biblical definition of the local church and why that clarity matters for missionaries and cross-cultural workers who have been shaped by unhealthy church experiences.

We connect church membership, baptism, the Lord’s Supper, and congregational authority to everyday discipleship.

Topics
• confusion created by saying “the church isn’t a building” while ignoring the need for a covenanted body
• the value of expositional preaching versus preacher-driven topical proof texting
• a practical definition of a church as a baptized, covenanted congregation that gathers weekly
• baptism and the Lord’s Supper as covenant signs that shape membership and accountability
• why leaving a church during conflict reveals a thin view of covenant commitment
• the “keys of the kingdom” and the church’s authority over doctrine, membership, discipline, and leadership
• moving from “what do I get?” to “how do I love and build up others?”
• what to do in frontline ministry with only a few believers and no established church
• the dividing line between a Bible study and a church gathered around the ordinances

What is a church? “A church is a congregation of baptized Christians who have covenanted to gather weekly for preaching the Bible, celebrating the ordinances, loving the saints, witnessing to the lost, and, in all this, glorifying God.

Listen on: Apple Podcast | Spotify

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 From Arabic Study To Pastoring
  • 04:00 Expositional Preaching Made Simple
  • 06:40 Why The Church Matters In Missions
  • 09:30 A Clear Definition Of Church
  • 18:40 Covenant Commitment When Conflict Hits
  • 21:15 Baptism And The Lord’s Supper
  • 29:20 Keys Of The Kingdom And Authority
  • 41:10 When Church Feels Like You Get Nothing
  • 44:15 Planting A Church With Few Believers
  • 49:00 Bible Study Versus A True Church
  • 51:15 Slow Faithful Work And Closing Charge

Safety feels like the obvious goal until you hear what it can quietly replace. Today on the Pod, I sit down with a long-term Middle East worker and mother who has lived through war, economic collapse, and years of instability and still chooses to stay, not out of recklessness, but out of discernment, community responsibility, and a deep confidence that God’s presence is worth following as a family.

We talk honestly about what daily life is like in the Arab world: the joy, the hospitality, the “vibe”, and also the grinding stress of lawlessness and unreliable systems. My guest shares how learning Arabic and reading cultural cues changes everything for a Western woman, from being heard in a room to navigating respect, boundaries, and leadership. We talk about what it’s like confronting polygamy and the stories of jealousy and pain that make working with women in the Arab World so unique. Throughout, we keep coming back to a core idea for cross-cultural workers: discipleship is not separate from family systems, it collides with them and transforms them from the inside out.

If you care about parenting overseas, third culture kids, and raising resilient children in cross-cultural ministry, this conversation gets specific. My guest’s kids attend a school that is 95% Muslim, which creates daily opportunities and daily friction, especially around forgiveness, humility, conflict, and the normalization of yelling and threats. My guest explains how her family makes stay-or-go decisions during wartime, what their safety “red lines” are, and why they pursue outside help, like TCK counseling when needed. We also explore why crisis often produces unprecedented spiritual hunger, why many women respond powerfully to Jesus, and how simple tools like audio Scripture in spoken Arabic can unlock discipleship for women facing illiteracy and dialect barriers.

If you’ve ever wrestled with calling versus comfort, or wondered what “counting the cost” looks like with kids in the picture, this episode is for you.

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 First Impressions and Real Arab Women
  • 02:52 The Joy and Stress of Lawlessness
  • 04:53 Language, Culture, And Earned Respect
  • 06:16 Marriage, Kids, And Social Authority
  • 08:32 Polygamy and the Real Struggles of Women
  • 11:27 Women’s Power Inside Family Systems
  • 14:34 Discipleship That Changes Social Patterns
  • 16:56 Teaching Forgiveness In A No Forgiveness Culture
  • 19:27 Figuring out Education on the Field
  • 27:44 Raising Third Culture Kids
  • 32:35 Deciding Whether To Stay During War
  • 39:48 Crisis Creates Hunger And Open Doors
  • 42:15 Why Women Respond Powerfully To Jesus
  • 47:59 Discipling Illiterate Women
  • 52:28 Barriers In Discipling Women Long Term
  • 56:45 The Power of Endurance

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I get the question all the time from well-meaning people. But I like to turn the question on its head. I think in the West our kids have become our idols. I think in the West we over-protect our kids. My kids live in a country torn apart by sectarianism and war, but they get to see miracles. They get to live in the book Acts.

The Power of Enduring Hope

Safety feels like the obvious goal until you hear what it can quietly replace. Today on the Pod, I sit down with a long-term Middle East worker and mother who has lived through war, economic collapse, and years of instability and still chooses to stay, not out of recklessness, but out of discernment, community responsibility, and a deep confidence that God’s presence is worth following as a family.

We talk honestly about what daily life is like in the Arab world: the joy, the hospitality, the “vibe”, and also the grinding stress of lawlessness and unreliable systems. My guest shares how learning Arabic and reading cultural cues changes everything for a Western woman, from being heard in a room to navigating respect, boundaries, and leadership. We talk about what it’s like confronting polygamy and the stories of jealousy and pain that make working with women in the Arab World so unique. Throughout, we keep coming back to a core idea for cross-cultural workers: discipleship is not separate from family systems, it collides with them and transforms them from the inside out.

If you care about parenting overseas, third culture kids, and raising resilient children in cross-cultural ministry, this conversation gets specific. My guest’s kids attend a school that is 95% Muslim, which creates daily opportunities and daily friction, especially around forgiveness, humility, conflict, and the normalization of yelling and threats. My guest explains how her family makes stay-or-go decisions during wartime, what their safety “red lines” are, and why they pursue outside help, like TCK counseling when needed. We also explore why crisis often produces unprecedented spiritual hunger, why many women respond powerfully to Jesus, and how simple tools like audio Scripture in spoken Arabic can unlock discipleship for women facing illiteracy and dialect barriers.

If you’ve ever wrestled with calling versus comfort, or wondered what “counting the cost” looks like with kids in the picture, this episode is for you.

“I get the question all the time from well-meaning people. But I like to turn the question on its head. I think in the West our kids have become our idols. I think in the West we over-protect our kids. My kids live in a country torn apart by sectarianism and war, but they get to see miracles. They get to live in the book Acts.”

Listen on: Apple Podcast | Spotify

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 First Impressions and Real Arab Women
  • 02:52 The Joy and Stress of Lawlessness
  • 04:53 Language, Culture, And Earned Respect
  • 06:16 Marriage, Kids, And Social Authority
  • 08:32 Polygamy and the Real Struggles of Women
  • 11:27 Women’s Power Inside Family Systems
  • 14:34 Discipleship That Changes Social Patterns
  • 16:56 Teaching Forgiveness In A No-Forgiveness Culture
  • 19:27 Figuring out Education on the Field
  • 27:44 Raising Third Culture Kids
  • 32:35 Deciding Whether To Stay During War
  • 39:48 Crisis Creates Hunger And Open Doors
  • 42:15 Why Women Respond Powerfully To Jesus
  • 47:59 Discipling Illiterate Women
  • 52:28 Barriers In Discipling Women Long Term
  • 56:45 The Power of Endurance

A single decision at 14 can set a direction you only understand years later. We sit down with my guest to trace how a teenage “all in” moment, a world atlas opened during exam prep, and a summer camp prayer meeting with George’s inflatable globe became the quiet beginnings of a lifelong call to cross-cultural missions. Along the way, we talk about how God often guides through “means” like mentors, biographies, teams, and the simple pull of a burden that won’t go away.

We also get honest about the interior battle many cross-cultural workers face: the pressure to prove you’re worth the investment. My guest shares what it was like to feel ineffective overseas while learning language and culture, and why that season taught him a deeper priority: God cares more about relationship and character than output. We unpack 1 Corinthians 3, the freedom of “God gives the growth”, and the daily practice of preaching the gospel of grace to yourself so pride and despair don’t run your life.

From there, we zoom out into leadership on the field and mission strategy. We explore how missions has changed since the early 1990s, what has stayed the same. We talk about what healthy leadership looks like in a diverse global organisation: character over charisma, leaders who are still walking with Jesus, and leaders who develop successors.

Finally, we trace the bigger story of mission innovation from William Carey to people group thinking, church planting movements, and disciple making movements, then ask what comes next as AI, migration, urbanization, and a post-Western global church reshape the mission landscape. If you care about missions, church planting, discipleship, contextualization, and resilient leadership, this one is for you.

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 At 16 years old, asking God where to serve
  • 06:12 Resting in God and working hard are not opposites
  • 9:44 Feeling weak and useless is the path to trusting God
  • 14:00 How missions has changed since the 1990s
  • 21:28 What makes a trustworthy leader?
  • 30:34 How to avoid cynicism
  • 34:53 The History of Missions and Innovations Cycles
  • 41:50 Understanding where we came from helps us address the challenges we face now

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The greatest amongst you will not be the most successful, or the most fruitful, or the most strategic, or the most exciting, or the most articulate. The greatest amongst you will be the servants of all.

What If Fruit Isn’t The Measure Of Faithfulness?

A single decision at 14 can set a direction you only understand years later. We sit down with my guest to trace how a teenage “all in” moment, a world atlas opened during exam prep, and a summer camp prayer meeting with George’s inflatable globe became the quiet beginnings of a lifelong call to cross-cultural missions. Along the way, we talk about how God often guides through “means” like mentors, biographies, teams, and the simple pull of a burden that won’t go away.

We also get honest about the interior battle many cross-cultural workers face: the pressure to prove you’re worth the investment. My guest shares what it was like to feel ineffective overseas while learning language and culture, and why that season taught him a deeper priority: God cares more about relationship and character than output. We unpack 1 Corinthians 3, the freedom of “God gives the growth”, and the daily practice of preaching the gospel of grace to yourself so pride and despair don’t run your life.

From there, we zoom out into leadership on the field and mission strategy. We explore how missions has changed since the early 1990s, what has stayed the same. We talk about what healthy leadership looks like in a diverse global organisation: character over charisma, leaders who are still walking with Jesus, and leaders who develop successors.

Finally, we trace the bigger story of mission innovation from William Carey to people group thinking, church planting movements, and disciple making movements, then ask what comes next as AI, migration, urbanization, and a post-Western global church reshape the mission landscape. If you care about missions, church planting, discipleship, contextualization, and resilient leadership, this one is for you.

“The greatest amongst you will not be the most successful, or the most fruitful, or the most strategic, or the most exciting, or the most articulate. The greatest amongst you will be the servants of all.”

Listen on: Apple Podcast | Spotify

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 At 16 years old, asking God where to serve
  • 06:12 Resting in God and working hard are not opposites
  • 9:44 Feeling weak and useless is the path to trusting God
  • 14:00 How missions has changed since the 1990s
  • 21:28 What makes a trustworthy leader?
  • 30:34 How to avoid cynicism
  • 34:53 The History of Missions and Innovations Cycles
  • 41:50 Understanding where we came from helps us address the challenges we face now

When someone you poured your life into goes quiet spiritually, it doesn’t just hurt them; it hits you. We sit down with a long-term worker in the Middle East to talk about the disappointment that quietly fuels burnout, cynicism, and that sneaky identity trap where other people’s discipleship becomes our scoreboard. We name the emotions most missionaries and ministry leaders feel but rarely admit: embarrassment, shame, pressure to “fix it”, and the fear that if we stop pushing, everything will fall apart. 

From there, we move into a different kind of resilience: contemplative spirituality. We talk about silence, solitude, centering prayer, and why “turning up the Christian noise” works for a season until it doesn’t. My guest explains why silence feels like death to our need for control, and why Sabbath is more than rest. It’s a weekly sign that God is the one who sanctifies, not our output, our intensity, or our method. If you’re leading, planting, discipling, or serving cross-culturally, this thread alone can change how you carry the weight. 

Then we pivot into disciple-making movements (DMM) and discovery Bible study (DBS): how DMM became ubiquitous in missions, what problems it tries to solve, and what people often misunderstand. We define DMM simply, highlight the empowerment of ordinary believers, and challenge the idea that a DBS seed is the whole tree. If you care about church planting movements, obedience-based discipleship, and healthy multiplication that also matures, this conversation gives you language and clarity without hype. 

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Impassioned by the Kingdom of God
  • 03:26 The reality of disappointment
  • 08:54 The invitation to go deeper with God
  • 15:22 Falling in love with missions 
  • 20:50 How DBS/DMM became so popular 
  • 26:55 What is a DMM?
  • 31:00 Empowering ordinary people
  • 37:21 Misconceptions of DMM

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DMM is the idea that the discipleship process produces the church and not the other way around. The fruit of discipleship is the church. In the West, we tend to think of discipleship as a church program. In a DMM, the expectation is that everyone is an active student of Scripture, competent to reflect and share what they are learning; everyone is a doer of the Word. Everyone is thinking, God is speaking to me, how does this impact my life?

The Best Explanation of DMM You've Ever Heard

When someone you poured your life into goes quiet spiritually, it doesn’t just hurt them; it hits you. We sit down with a long-term worker in the Middle East to talk about the disappointment that quietly fuels burnout, cynicism, and that sneaky identity trap where other people’s discipleship becomes our scoreboard. We name the emotions most missionaries and ministry leaders feel but rarely admit: embarrassment, shame, pressure to “fix it”, and the fear that if we stop pushing, everything will fall apart. 

From there, we move into a different kind of resilience: contemplative spirituality. We talk about silence, solitude, centering prayer, and why “turning up the Christian noise” works for a season until it doesn’t. My guest explains why silence feels like death to our need for control, and why Sabbath is more than rest. It’s a weekly sign that God is the one who sanctifies, not our output, our intensity, or our method. If you’re leading, planting, discipling, or serving cross-culturally, this thread alone can change how you carry the weight. 

Then we pivot into disciple-making movements (DMM) and discovery Bible study (DBS): how DMM became ubiquitous in missions, what problems it tries to solve, and what people often misunderstand. We define DMM simply, highlight the empowerment of ordinary believers, and challenge the idea that a DBS seed is the whole tree. If you care about church planting movements, obedience-based discipleship, and healthy multiplication that also matures, this conversation gives you language and clarity without hype. 

DMM is the idea that the discipleship process produces the church and not the other way around. The fruit of discipleship is the church. In the West, we tend to think of discipleship as a church program. In a DMM, the expectation is that everyone is an active student of Scripture, competent to reflect and share what they are learning; everyone is a doer of the Word. Everyone is thinking, God is speaking to me, how does this impact my life?

Listen on: Apple Podcast Spotify

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Impassioned by the Kingdom of God
  • 03:26 The reality of disappointment
  • 08:54 The invitation to go deeper with God
  • 15:22 Falling in love with missions 
  • 20:50 How DBS/DMM became so popular 
  • 26:55 What is a DMM?
  • 31:00 Empowering ordinary people
  • 37:21 Misconceptions of DMM

In today’s episode, we take a fresh look at compassion fatigue and ask whether a change in perspective could actually prevent us from ever experiencing it. My guest says it’s possible to not only grow in our capacity for compassion, but also to find that our capacity itself is endless. It is a fascinating conversation that I’m sure will challenge and strengthen you. 

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Being Compelled to Reach the Unreached
  • 06:03 Changing Gears from Evangelism to Carrying for Missionaries
  • 08:56 The Difference Between Burnout and Compassion Fatigue
  • 12:08 The Famous Compassion Fatigue
  • 17:50 My Experience with Compassion Fatigue
  • 24:25 Does Compassion Really Run Out?
  • 35:08 Growing your Compassion Muscles
  • 39:50 Learning to Have Compassion for Others and Yourself

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After I read the article, I said, If this is true, we have the power to avoid compassion fatigue. If this is true, then we can change something about how we look at compassion fatigue and escape or recover from it. And that shifted my perspective.

Framing Our Lives For Deeper Joy

In today’s episode, we take a fresh look at compassion fatigue and ask whether a change in perspective could actually prevent us from ever experiencing it. My guest says it’s possible to not only grow in our capacity for compassion, but also to find that our capacity itself is endless. It is a fascinating conversation that I’m sure will challenge and strengthen you. 

After I read the article, I said, If this is true, we have the power to avoid compassion fatigue. If this is true, then we can change something about how we look at compassion fatigue and escape or recover from it. And that shifted my perspective.

Listen on: Apple Podcast Spotify

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Being Compelled to Reach the Unreached
  • 06:03 Changing Gears from Evangelism to Carrying for Missionaries
  • 08:56 The Difference Between Burnout and Compassion Fatigue
  • 12:08 The Famous Compassion Fatigue
  • 17:50 My Experience with Compassion Fatigue
  • 24:25 Does Compassion Really Run Out?
  • 35:08 Growing your Compassion Muscles
  • 39:50 Learning to Have Compassion for Others and Yourself

In this episode, we cover three main themes: 1) the importance of collaboration in the field, 2) the importance of healthy marriages and families, and 3) overcoming the siren call of technology in your life. 

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Being discipled by George Verwer
  • 08:00 The power of collaboration 
  • 15:42 The results of collaboration
  • 21:26 Passion for healthy families
  • 25:57 Family Habits
  • 32:08 Building character in the home
  • 41:40 Technologies eroding effects on the soul

Resources mentioned in the Pod

Habits of the Household 

The Opt Out Family 

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I would sit with George around the table with leaders from all over the world, and many of them had major heartbreak around family issues. There were people passionate about the mission and getting the Gospel to the ends of the earth, but they all had major family regrets.

Framing Our Lives For Deeper Joy

In this episode, we cover three main themes: 1) the importance of collaboration in the field, 2) the importance of healthy marriages and families, and 3) overcoming the siren call of technology in your life. 

I would sit with George around the table with leaders from all over the world, and many of them had major heartbreak around family issues. There were people passionate about the mission and getting the Gospel to the ends of the earth, but they all had major family regrets.

Listen on: Apple Podcast | Spotify

Resources mentioned in the Pod

Habits of the Household 

The Opt Out Family 

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Being discipled by George Verwer
  • 08:00 The power of collaboration 
  • 15:42 The results of collaboration
  • 21:26 Passion for healthy families
  • 25:57 Family Habits
  • 32:08 Building character in the home
  • 41:40 Technologies eroding effects on the soul

On today’s pod, we take a biblical look at Compassion Fatigue, one of the biggest issues that cross-cultural workers face daily. My guest helps us understand why we experience this kind of helping fatigue, and what we can do to drink deeply from the source of our compassion strength. 

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Settling into Missions
  • 03:34 The Need for Biblical Counseling
  • 08:47 My Story of Compassion Fatigue
  • 12:15 What is Compassion Fatigue?
  • 15:49 What Happens When You Flip the Great Commandments?
  • 18:50 How do I know if I’m loving my Neighbor before God?
  • 24:45 Being Exhausted from Helping People 
  • 30:10 How Elijah Can Teach Us About Compassion Fatigue
  • 41:04 Saints, Sinners, and Suffering

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Don’t get lost in this identity of being a healer. That’s not your identity. Your identity is a saint in Christ. Keep coming back to that. Keep grounded in the Gospel. That gives you the capacity to love, and that gives you the capacity to care for others.

Compassion Fatigue

On today’s pod, we take a biblical look at Compassion Fatigue, one of the biggest issues that cross-cultural workers face daily. My guest helps us understand why we experience this kind of helping fatigue, and what we can do to drink deeply from the source of our compassion strength. 

Don’t get lost in this identity of being a healer. That’s not your identity. Your identity is a saint in Christ. Keep coming back to that. Keep grounded in the Gospel. That gives you the capacity to love, and that gives you the capacity to care for others.

Listen on: Apple Podcast | Spotify

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:00 Settling into Missions
  • 03:34 The Need for Biblical Counseling
  • 08:47 My Story of Compassion Fatigue
  • 12:15 What is Compassion Fatigue?
  • 15:49 What Happens When You Flip the Great Commandments?
  • 18:50 How do I know if I’m loving my Neighbor before God?
  • 24:45 Being Exhausted from Helping People 
  • 30:10 How Elijah Can Teach Us About Compassion Fatigue
  • 41:04 Saints, Sinners, and Suffering

On today’s pod, I took a few topics from the last two episodes and did a deeper dive into them. I really enjoyed thinking through these topics and hope they can be of some benefit to you.

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:05 Loneliness on the Field
  • 04:14 Realistic Expectations in Low-Grow Environments
  • 09:02 Living the Double Life
  • 13:00 Discipling in Low-Trust Societies 
  • 19:39 Know Your Limits

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But sometimes I can be too hard on people who have come to faith in Jesus and demand too much from them. Sometimes I judge them in my heart because they are not willing to “lose everything” for the sake of the Gospel. But my guest in episode 95 reminded me that there is a place for the underground church. Being underground means that, to some extent, you are living secretly as a believer because it is dangerous if people know.

My Thoughts

On today’s pod, I took a few topics from the last two episodes and delved deeper into them. I really enjoyed thinking through these topics and hope they can be of some benefit to you.

But sometimes I can be too hard on people who have come to faith in Jesus and demand too much from them. Sometimes I judge them in my heart because they are not willing to “lose everything” for the sake of the Gospel. But my guest in episode 95 reminded me that there is a place for the underground church. Being underground means that, to some extent, you are living secretly as a believer because it is dangerous if people know.

Listen on: Apple Podcast | Spotify

Timeline

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 01:05 Loneliness on the Field
  • 04:14 Realistic Expectations in Low-Grow Environments
  • 09:02 Living the Double Life
  • 13:00 Discipling in Low-Trust Societies 
  • 19:39 Know Your Limits

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